n this interview, Special Topics correspondent Gary Taubes talks
with Dr. Nima Arkani-Hamed about his highly cited work in brane
theory. In our analysis of this specialized field, Dr. Arkani-Hamed’s
work places him among the top 15 researchers publishing in the past
decade, with 8 papers cited a total of 980 times. Two of these papers
are also included on the list of top papers for this field: "New
dimensions at a millimeter to a fermi and superstrings at a TeV"
(Physics Letters B
436[3-4]: 257-63, 24 September 1998) with 492 citations at the time of
the analysis, and "Phenomenology, astrophysics, and cosmology of
theories with submillimeter dimensions and TeV scale quantum
gravity" (Physical Review D 5908[8]: 6004+, 15 April 1999)
with 330 citations. Both papers have since garnered considerably more
citations in the ISI
Essential
Science Indicators
Web product, with new citation totals at 631 and 407, respectively.
Dr. Arkani-Hamed is currently a Visiting Professor in the Department
of Physics at Harvard University.
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What got you started on the research in large extra dimensions, for
which you're so highly cited?
Well, I had just obtained my degree from UC Berkeley and had just
started my post-doc at the Stanford Linear Accelerator Center (SLAC).
As a Ph.D. student, I had been working on what was a mature field. It
was supersymmetry at low energies: the point was that everyone expects
some sort of new physics to come in at a distance around 10-17 centimeters,
and what we can see at accelerators today goes up to 10-16 centimeters.
For 20 years, the dominant view has been that a new symmetry of nature
will be revealed, called supersymmetry, and it will manifest itself in
a variety of new particles with very distinctive properties. But this
framework has been around for 20 years, and it may still very well be
right, and it's what I spent my time exploring as a graduate student,
but by the time I got to my post-doc I was definitely getting
restless, wondering if there was some completely different framework
for what might be happening at the 10-17 centimeter scale .
When I arrived at SLAC, I immediately started talking to Savas
Dimopoulos, who's one of the people responsible for inventing this old
paradigm of supersymmetry. We quickly realized we were both on the
same page as far as wanting to think about something completely
different. Gia Dvali was also interested in thinking that way. So the
three of us started thinking about whether we could make sense of some
older ideas about extra dimensions that might be large compared with
what people normally thought about extra dimensions.
What size did physicists normally consider for the extra dimensions
of, say, string theory?
Normally you think they must be really tiny, 10-33
centimeters. If you just extrapolate Newton's inverse square law for
gravity, and ask at what distance does gravity become comparable to
all the other forces, you get 10-33 centimeters, which is
an incredibly miniscule distance. So people thought that since that
seemed to be a natural scale associated with gravity, if we do have
extra dimensions, they should be curled up at that miniscule size. But
every now and then people floated the idea that these dimensions might
be bigger, as big as 10-17 centimeters. This still wasn’t
incredibly brave, because you're still putting them just out of reach
of experiment. Nevertheless, this idea was suggested most forcefully
by Ignatius Antoniadis, one of the co-authors on these two highly
papers. In the early 1990s, he started talking about this idea. In
fact, Savas and Gia and Ignatius had just written a paper about some
properties of these theories, should they make sense, and I looked at
this paper and I thought it seemed pretty intriguing.
When I arrived at SLAC and hooked up with Savas, I asked him about
this and he said he didn't even know if these theories made any sense,
even though they had written this paper about them. So we set out to
see if they did. Neither one of us was an expert on extra dimensions,
and so we very slowly started learning all kinds of simple things just
to understand whether these theories really made any sense. We did
this for quite a number of months and basically concluded that it was
inconclusive. In the meantime, we had learned enough about extra
dimensions that we could start having ideas of our own. Then when Gia
Dvali was visiting Stanford in March 1998, we were just sitting around
and we realized that there were some incredibly simple properties of
these extra dimensions, which were very well known to any experts on
the subject, but not to us. One of these very simple things is that
the extra dimensions dilute any force that goes there. There's just a
lot more room to spread out and so the forces appear to be weaker. And
the second we realized that this could happen, it was extremely
natural to wonder why we can't make the dimensions so big that we make
gravity appear to be very, very weak, which is one thing any
successful theory has to be able to do.
Even if it solved that problem, wouldn't it introduce other
problems, like properties of matter that might not match what we see
in reality?
That was the next question. If these extra dimensions are there and
relatively large, why haven't we seen them yet? The very natural
answer was because we're confined to living on a wall in this higher
dimensional space. So everything we're made out of, except gravity,
actually sticks to this three-dimensional sub-surface in this
higher-dimensional space where only gravity can go. These ideas came
very, very quickly. We did some very simple estimates and realized
that the size of these extra dimensions would have to be huge compared
to the size people had been talking about—maybe as large as a
millimeter, in the case of two extra dimensions. But we couldn't
immediately find any contradiction with having this crazy idea. This
was all in the course of an afternoon, and I think we all thought this
was crazy and very amusing but surely there most be something wrong
with it. The remarkable thing was that the more we thought about it,
and the more different ways we tried to kill it off, we couldn’t do
it. It survived and was consistent in a pretty non-trivial way with
all the experimental results we could imagine. So after four or five
months of trying to kill it off every day, we started to become
convinced that it wasn't kill-off-able and was a viable idea.
So there were three papers, two of which make our highly cited
list. Tell us about the significance of each paper.
Our very first paper was written by me and Savas
and Gia Dvali and
looked at how these large dimensions solved the hierarchy problem. The
next paper was with Antoniadis, "New dimensions at a millimeter
to a fermi and superstrings at a TeV", and this was the paper in
which we showed how these ideas could be embedded into string theory,
which is the only known framework for making a sensible theory of
gravity valid to arbitrarily short distances. And so both of these
papers were basically at the level of discussing the main idea and
then some quick sketches for why it wasn’t ruled out by anything.
The third paper—"Phenomenology, astrophysics, and cosmology
of theories with sub millimeter dimensions and TeV scale quantum
gravity"—is not the most cited of the lot, but was really
crucial. This was the paper where we systematically analyzed anything
that could possibly kill this theory off and demonstrated that it
managed to escape everything. We had to think about all kinds of
strange things that could happen in cosmology, the collapse of
supernovae, astrophysics, lots of different phenomena that we already
know a lot about in nature and that could have been drastically
affected by these large dimensions. It was not immediately obvious
that you could get away with doing this without screwing up any number
of things we know about already. All kinds of things could have gone
wrong. And the point of this paper was to systematically go through
everything we could think of and show that the theory escaped. It
occasionally ended up being very constrained by nature, but was
nonetheless viable over the entire range of known phenomena.
That it is highly constrained suggests that it can be tested by
experiment. Is that the case?
That’s right. The most exciting aspect of this stuff is that once
we demonstrated that we had a viable theory, we could start talking
about predictions. If this picture is realized in the world, and it
certainly may not be, then there's just a plethora of experimental
predictions that it makes. And the really exciting thing is you could
perhaps test these both at accelerators and maybe even tabletop
experiments. If what we're saying is true, then all the effects of
gravity that we don't understand—of quantum theory, of string
theory, etc—would all be probed right at the next generation of
accelerators. It means you will be able to make strings at the Large
Hadron Collider at CERN in the next five to ten years. You might make
little black holes. Because all the strange things associated with
gravity go from completely inaccessible, down at this miniscule
distance, to just above our heads and maybe showing up in the next
decade.
Were you surprised by the impact of your papers?
I think we all realized pretty quickly that if this held up it was
very important. And so I was extremely excited about it. I really
thought this was a big enough shake-up to the usual picture, that
people would have to find it interesting. Of course, for the first six
months, at least, the basic reaction was disbelief. People found it
interesting but they all thought that surely it was wrong. It took
some convincing, and the third paper was critical for that. So for
those first six months, it was a little bit frustrating. But I did
feel it was a very important piece of work. And that wasn’t
immodesty. It was just a very different picture of the universe and
it's not very often those come along and are consistent.
How has the picture developed since you originally published?
There have been more and more refinements and some more constraints
have been discovered, although not many more than the ones we
originally outlined. There's been a lot of extra work done on yet
other aspects of physics that you can fit into this picture—some
quite different and very interesting additions to this set of ideas.
If you were an odds-maker in Vegas, what odds would you give that
your ideas are right?
I don't know. I think it's about as likely as anything else we've
thought of so far. What I would bet most on is that there's something
very strange going on that maybe we haven't even dreamed of yet. After
that I would put equal odds on our theory and supersymmetry.
Now your work has evolved into a mature and crowded field. Are you
looking to find something new and different again? Or are you pushing
ahead with the large dimension research?
I'm doing something new for precisely the reason you say. Also
because I do believe we will find out something new in experiments
pretty soon, I don’t see any point in spending lot of time doing
detailed work on any one model. So I prefer to think of new
possibilities. For the last six or eight months, I've been going back
and trying to understand whether there's anything all that special
about extra dimensions to begin with. Together with some colleagues
here at Harvard, we've come up with what I think is a pretty exciting
set of ideas to show that extra dimensions can actually be generated
from completely four-dimensional physics. We call this deconstructing
dimensions, because it is taking the extra dimensions and taking them
down to completely four-dimensional building blocks. It also gives a
new slant on the meaning of space. Space isn't something you have to
take for granted, but something you can actually generate from the
dynamics of completely four-dimensional models. We're busily exploring
the consequences of this idea. The idea that space might not be
fundamental is pretty well accepted by a lot of people. Before we were
thinking about adding extra dimensions and using them to do different
things. Now I'm going back and hacking away at the extra dimensions to
see what we can do with what's left.
Dr. Nima Arkani-Hamed
Department of Physics
Harvard University
Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA


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Topics, July 2002
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