An INTERVIEW with
Ross S. Stein
ESI Special Topics,
December 2003
Citing URL - http://www.esi-topics.com/earthquakes/interviews/RossStein.html
n this
interview with Special Topics correspondent Gary Taubes, Ross
S. Stein of the U.S. Geological Survey talks about his work in
earthquake research. In our analysis of this research over the
past decade, his work ranks at #2, with 19 papers cited a
total of 725 times, and he is a co-author on the top-ranked
paper, "Static stress changes and the triggering of
earthquakes," (Bull. Seismol. Soc. Amer. 84[3]:
935-53, June 1994). In the ISI
Essential
Science Indicators
Web product, Stein’s work can be found in the Geosciences
field. Stein has been a geophysicist on the USGS’s
Earthquake Hazards Team since 1981.
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What
was the context and motivation for writing "Static stress changes
and the triggering of earthquakes"?
Well, I was working with two fabulous scientists: Geoffrey King,
who is now at the Institut de Physique du
Globe in Paris, and Jin Lin,
who is at Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution. We were working on
another aspect of earthquakes, and were all meeting together at
Woods Hole to study how faults evolve over millions of years. A
couple of days before Geof arrived, the Landers earthquake, the 1992
magnitude 7.3 quake in Landers, California, struck. In our business,
a large, well-recorded earthquake produces such a treasure of data
that it just trumps everything that came before it. We immediately
saw huge opportunities for understanding phenomena that we didn’t
think were possible to understand consider before that.
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The Landers shock is like the Velveteen Rabbit of earthquake science; we’ve loved it and fussed over it until its eyes have popped out. We just can’t give up on it.
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During my post-Doc at Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory in 1980, I
had analyzed a little earthquake that occurred right where the
Landers earthquake took place 14 years later. By studying the
succession of earthquakes in this area, we could learn something
about how one earthquake sets up another. So we just swept
everything off the desk and went to work on this new idea. Geof got
off the plane from France, and we said we’re going to do this
instead, and that was that. We did not have the right tools, and we
were a long way from the California data stream. But on the other
hand, there were no distractions and we worked well together. We
started the study in Woods Hole in June (where no one was working on
earthquakes), and finished in Strasboug in August (where everyone
was on vacation).
How
would you describe the fundamental concept of the paper?
You can treat earthquakes, in effect, as cuts in a big slab of
rubber. You imagine you have this big slab sitting on your desk. You
grab a carving knife and make a cut in the rubber, and then you take
the two sides of the rubber and pull them across one another, slide
them across. Then imagine you take Crazy Glue and squirt it in along
the cut and wait until it dries. Now let go. Obviously you have some
displacement across the cut and some distortions in the rubber. If
you know how stiff the rubber is, you can convert the distortions to
stresses and those can be modeled on the computer. That’s
basically all we do. We look at how one earthquake changes the
stress around it. Our idea is embarrassingly simple: An earthquake
is going to reduce the stress on the fault that just slipped, but it’s
also going to increase the stress in other places in the
neighborhood of the fault. All things being equal, the next
earthquakes, both little and big, should be in the places where the
stress was jacked up.
That
does seem simple. How does it differ from previous thinking?
Well, I can answer that in two ways. First, how did people
respond to this idea? And the answer is they were revolted by it.
Even though we could show that aftershocks tend to occur in regions
where we calculate that the stress is jacked up, and they tend to
stay away from places where the stress dropped, the actual changes
in stress are very small. We’re talking about the amount of stress
you put in a car tire—a couple of bars. We were claiming that
changing the stress by even a quarter of a bar is enough to turn
earthquakes on and off. People said it’s preposterous that such
small changes could be responsible. Then things proceeded as they
often do in earthquake research: All new ideas look demonstrably
wrong until people keep seeing the phenomena over and over again.
Plate tectonics, for example, looked obviously wrong until the
evidence became overwhelming.
The second part of the answer to your question is that the
prevailing view then, and perhaps less so but still today, is that
earthquakes are essentially random independent phenomena. If you’re
throwing darts onto a board, no matter how good your last shot was,
your next one is uncorrelated with it. Each shot is based instead on
your general level of skill, not on the last shot. The only
difference between that random view and what most people say is the
case for earthquake occurrence is that more darts hit major faults
like the San Andreas than elsewhere. It’s as if you had magnets
behind the dartboard aligned along the major faults. Our view is
that that idea cannot be right. Earthquakes, for example, trigger
abundant aftershocks, and so they strongly condition the subsequent
throws after big events. We view earthquakes as being in a kind of
conversation, promoting and inhibiting each other by the transfer of
stress. And unless we can figure out how that works, we will never
be able to forecast earthquake occurrence.
How
did you make your decision on where to publish the article?
In this case, we published an article in Science first,
because we wanted a fast, high-profile journal, and because several
other groups were heading in the same direction and we wanted to
make sure we were not left behind. It would be dishonest to say
science is not a competitive game. Once that 1992 paper was behind
us, however, we wanted to contribute to a collection of papers about
the Landers earthquake, because our sense was that these collections
have a longer lifespan than individual papers. Further, Science
papers are a poem, not a tomb, making it almost impossible for
readers to fully understand your thinking. So a year later, we had
an opportunity to do that with the Bulletin. The King et
al. 1994 paper was intended to be comprehensive enough to really
permit people to understand it, and persuasive enough to encourage
others to reproduce it.
Did
these other groups eventually get to the same place you did with your
theory?
By degree. There is still, however, a fairly large chorus of
complaints about our theory. But people have looked for all the
holes in the 1994 paper; they have checked the math and reproduced
its findings and figures many times over. This means that, while we
may not be right, we are not obviously wrong. Anyway, we sleep
better.
What
progress has been made since 1994 in clarifying the controversy?
One thing we did that has been a research catalyst is we took the
software created to make these kinds of calculations, called ‘Coulomb,’
and we built a users’ guide and tutorials, and put them on the Web
and made them available to
everyone. So rather than ask someone to commit six months of
their time to create the tools we had already built for ourselves,
we simply made them available. We thought that would accelerate the
pace of research. In addition to us, several other groups have since
made their software available on the Web. It means a researcher or
student can jump in when they see a possible connection they want to
pursue. We also teach the software in short courses from time to
time. We want there to be nothing that keeps you from giving
stress-triggering a try. If it works, you’ll use it on a regular
basis. If it doesn’t, you can quickly move on to something else.
Since 1997, Shinji Toda, Tom Parsons, Jim Dieterich, Massimo
Cocco, and I have focused on moving from stress changes to
seismicity rates and earthquake probabilities. This is akin to
pulling a magnet across a sandbox; we accumulate numerous parameters
and assumptions to make the transition, all of them uncertain. So
the transition comes at a steep cost, but it also promises to
explain many more features of the time-dependence of earthquake
occurrence. And we must do this if we are to transform this work
into a societally useful tool to forecast earthquakes.
Are
we getting somewhere in understanding the patterns of earthquake
occurrence?
Landers made things very, very clear. Here we had a magnitude 7.3
earthquake, which was followed three hours later by the Big Bear
magnitude 6.5 shock. Big Bear didn’t occur on the fault that
ruptured at Landers, but on another one 40 kilometers away. Either
that’s highly coincidental or there’s some relationship between
the two shocks. The Big Bear earthquake is not what is traditionally
described as an "aftershock," because it wasn’t on the
Landers fault. Our calculation showed that the Landers earthquake
caused a very large increase in stress at Big Bear. About 75% of the
10,000 or so small aftershocks of Landers also struck where the
stress is calculated to have risen. Then the next magnitude 7
earthquake that occurred, in 1999, was in what we calculated to be
the next largest lobe of fault-stress increase. Equally exciting,
earthquakes were far less common in the "stress shadows,"
the regions where the stress had dropped.
The Landers shock is like the Velveteen Rabbit of earthquake
science; we’ve loved it and fussed over it until its eyes have
popped out. We just can’t give up on it. There are other large and
well-recorded earthquakes that rise to that standard, but you can
count them on one or two hands. We’re scientific scavengers; we’ve
studied all of them. But now we are saying to people, "Hey,
take a look at your earthquake, your site, your data, and see if it’s
consistent or inconsistent with this idea." Our bet was is that
if things looked different with other earthquakes, then we could
quickly revise or enhance the theory. If they looked similar, we’d
be building a case. No matter what happened, by making the tools
software available for everyone to use, we’d be moving faster than
we could have moved if we kept the tools to ourselves.
Other
than actually predicting earthquakes, what is the greatest challenge
in your research?
One difficulty is that it’s very hard to be fully objective.
The cases you choose to work with tend to be the ones that support
your hypothesis, and consciously or not, you tend to discard the
ones that don’t get you anywhere. This occurs because the
scientific rewards are restricted to where we’re able to make a
strong and compelling case. Further, journals generally don’t
relish work that is equivocal or ambiguous. The risk is that we will
delude ourselves, particularly when stress-triggering has become a
well-etched hypothesis. So there is always the chance that you’re
building a case that’s illusory. You have to be vigilant to make
sure that’s not happening. Some brilliant and thoughtful people
have voiced very strong criticisms about what we’ve done, and we
have to listen to them and figure out how to appraise the validity
of their criticisms. Although it’s hard to admit, reviewers and
critics keep you honest and push you harder.
Ross S. Stein
U.S. Geological Survey
Menlo Park, CA, USA
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ESI Special Topics,
December 2003
Citing URL - http://www.esi-topics.com/earthquakes/interviews/RossStein.html
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