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Gaylene Pron is a clinical epidemiologist in the department of
Public Health Sciences at the University of Toronto. Her
specialties and areas of interest include dissemination of
health research information, chronic disease management,
chronic pain, spine care, and women’s health. Here, she
discusses with Special Topics correspondent Myrna Watanabe her
two highly cited papers on uterine fibroid embolization (also
called uterine artery embolization or UAE) and the status of
treatment of uterine fibroids. A recent analysis of uterine
fibroid research shows that Dr. Pron had the most-cited paper
in this field over the past two years, with 20 citations to
date (Pron G., et al., "The Ontario Uterine Fibroid
Embolization Trial. Part 2. Uterine fibroid reduction and
symptom relief after uterine artery embolization for
fibroids." Fertility and Sterility 79[1]:120-127,
2003). She is also a coauthor of the paper ranked at #13 in
the field over the last two years, "Pathologic features
of uteri and leiomyomas following uterine artery embolization
for leiomyomas," (Colgan TJ, et al., American Journal
of Surgical Pathology 27[2]:167-177, 2003). Because of her
work in women’s health, she has been recognized in Canada’s
Who’s Who. Dr. Pron holds a Ph.D. in epidemiology from the
University of Toronto and a master’s degree in immunology
from the University of Manitoba, where she also studied
parasitology, biochemistry, and zoology.
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What
is the current thinking on the cause of uterine fibroids?
This topic was discussed at the NIH conference (Advances in
Uterine Leiomyoma Research: 2nd NIH International
Congress, Feb. 24-25, 2005, Bethesda, MD), trying to figure out
causality. We’re still very weak in the theories and the knowledge
of what causes fibroids.
How
common are uterine fibroids?
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“More and more women have been contacting me about UAE as a treatment alternative, not just to preserve their uterus, but also to preserve or enhance their fertility.”
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In general, the older you get, the more commonly they are found.
Several large population-based surveys with ultrasound (includes
women with and without fibroid symptoms) have recently been
published. In these studies, a very high prevalence of fibroids was
found: 60 to 70 percent of women had fibroids. The prevalence of
fibroids in these studies, as is well known, was highest in black
women. I am not aware of prevalence studies in other ethnic groups.
Is
there a relationship between endometriosis and uterine fibroids?
There is no known pathway, but fibroids and endometriosis can
coexist, and when they do, they can create more problems and be a
cause for treatment failure.
In
reviews of the most-cited papers over the last 10 and the last two
years in the field of uterine fibroids, there seems to be a trend to
citing fewer papers on hysterectomy and more papers on alternatives to
that treatment, including UAE. What is the history of UAE?
You may notice a paper by Jacques Ravina on your list of high
citations (Ravina J.H., et al., "Arterial embolization
to treat uterine myomata," Lancet 346[8976]:671-672,
1995). He discovered the usefulness of embolization for fibroids by
accident. Basically, they were performing myomectomies (surgical
removal of the fibroids) and because the procedure can be very
bloody, requiring transfusions, they wondered if embolization
performed before the surgery would, in effect, devascularize or dry
up the fibroids, decreasing the need for transfusions. Embolization
had been used for a variety of obstetrical reasons at that time.
What happened, however, was that the women improved so much after
the embolization, they cancelled their surgery. UAE has taken off
from that point and this whole process is a good example of medical
progress by accident or serendipity. It’s always interesting to me
that many of the most important advances in science and medicine are
not the result of highly thought out or planned outcomes of any
strategic mission, but rather are due to chance happenings. In
medicine, too, maybe particularly in medicine, we have to be attuned
and quick enough to follow forward from those fortuitous events.
In Europe, Dr. Ravina’s work propagated. It caused a firestorm
in the U.S. when Scott Goodwin, an interventional radiologist in
California, repeated these findings in a small group of women
(Goodwin S.C., et al., "Preliminary experience with
uterine artery embolization for uterine fibroids," Journal
of Vascular and Interventional Radiology 8[4]:517-526, 1997).
Not only did he publish them, but he also had a press conference to
inform the general public! He’s known as the grandfather of the
procedure here in North America.
Why
do you think your paper on UAE is so highly cited for a relatively new
publication in the field?
Several years ago, when I was at a health technology conference
in Europe, knowing how common fibroids are and the problems that
they cause, I thought that if this new procedure from France could
really help a lot of women, this would be a tremendous advance. When
I returned, I discussed this with our interventional radiologists in
our Toronto hospitals. I found that it wasn’t being commonly
performed. We decided to evaluate the treatment in a multicenter
trial in order to rapidly acquire a large sample and be able to
generalize our findings. We have published the findings in several
journals and they are known as the Ontario UFE (uterine fibroid
embolization) Trial.
Fibroids are a very common public health problem. They have a
devastating impact on women’s lives: the heavy menstrual bleeding,
even extensive bleeding lasting in some cases for several weeks. The
kind of menstrual bleeding we’re talking about is extreme. The
anemia and the fatigue factor from these menstrual irregularities
are unbelievable. There can be a lot of pain and cramping or
pressure from the fibroids. Fibroids can create pressure on the
bladder, resulting in urinary frequency and urgency. Women can also
have greatly distended abdomens from enlarged fibroids, causing them
to appear pregnant and often causing back pain. Fibroids can also
have adverse effects on pregnancies, and many women have
miscarriages.
Not only is it a major public health issue—this is a major
practice issue for gynecologists. In terms of their practices,
hysterectomy is the most common surgery performed on women next to
C-section. It’s also a growing practice issue for interventional
radiologists, who perform the treatment; it’s transforming their
practices. The clinical impact is huge, as well. Because of all of
this, I think that’s why there are many people from several
medical specialties writing (and reading) about UAE.
You
mentioned a paper that just came out in January. What is it on?
We have a new paper that’s just come out and wouldn’t be
cited yet (Pron G., Mocarski E., Bennett J., Vilos G., Common A.,
Vanderburgh L., "Pregnancy after uterine artery embolization
for leiomyomata: The Ontario Multicenter Trial," Obstetrics
& Gynecology 105:67-76, 2005). I think it’s a blockbuster
paper. While we were following women up in our Ontario UFE Trial, we
were looking at this procedure for effectiveness versus
hysterectomy, so we were very surprised to find a number of
pregnancies occurring in our study. The average age (of the women in
the study) was about 43. In our minds, the issue or objective of our
study was to determine if women were able to avoid having a
hysterectomy, could they maintain their uterus? While we were
conducting followup, we observed a number of pregnancies—24 to be
exact. We weren’t looking for this. The average age (of the women
who became pregnant) was 34, and some were 40. The women had
undergone UAE for large, symptomatic fibroids and had been generally
advised to have a hysterectomy. Many of these women had had previous
multiple pregnancy losses and several had prior surgeries to remove
fibroids. The fact that they achieved pregnancies after this
procedure was absolutely amazing.
There has been a lot of misinformation that UAE ends fertility or
that pregnancy was not possible after UAE. This report counters that
claim. Women can get pregnant. It also underscores the fact that
women should continue to use contraception after UAE if they don’t
want to get pregnant. It was of note that although we only had a few
pregnancies, most of the women delivered at term with healthy
babies. The other message from our study was that three of the women
had placentas located in the wrong position. Their deliveries had to
be C-sections rather than a vaginal delivery. Because our study wasn’t
designed to look at pregnancies and because we only had a few
pregnancies, we can’t say whether these events are higher or lower
than what we’d expect if the women had had myomectomies, the
surgical treatment option for fibroids that preserves the uterus.
However, we have recommended that if women get pregnant after
undergoing UAE, they should be followed closely with ultrasound to
make sure the placenta is in the right position. I’m pretty sure
that it won’t be too long before this paper is highly cited, as it’s
the first detailed paper on pregnancies occurring after embolization.
This would be attributable to the strong desires of women and
physicians to have as much information as possible on fertility and
pregnancy outcomes after treatment alternatives to hysterectomy.
Women no longer want to just preserve their uterus; they want a
treatment that preserves or enhances their fertility.
What’s
the next step in the research?
In March, the Society of Interventional Radiologists (SIR) held a
research consensus panel, bringing together all the experts to
decide the most important next area of research for UAE. In this
area, I have been pushing that we now need to do a trial in this
area—specifically, should women have myomectomy or embolization?
There’s going to be only one way to answer this: we have to do a
major randomized trial. If ever there was an area of women’s
health important enough to conduct a full-scale randomized trial,
this would be one of them. To conduct a randomized trial, women
would have to agree to be randomized and we would also have to have
gynecologists and interventional radiologists agree to randomize
their patients. Previously, when we looked at women deciding between
embolization and hysterectomy, that was no contest. If you gave
women a choice of being randomized to embolization and hysterectomy,
you would have to approach more than 50 women before you found one
who would agree to being randomized—most prefer any alternative to
hysterectomy.
In preparation of feasibility considerations for a major trial, I
really wanted to tap into women’s thinking, especially on the idea
of being randomized. If we’re going to tell a patient we’re
going to randomize them, we’re going to have to explain in a way
that they will understand the need to perform randomization.
In collaboration with the National Uterine Fibroid Foundation,
which is run by Carla Dionne, we put together a small survey that
was sent out on her website and chat group. We basically started to
sample women’s opinions about whether they would agree to
participate in that trial and if they had a preference for the
surgery (myomectomy) or embolization and why. Although this was
obviously a highly select group, it was a really quick and dirty way
to get opinions from women. That survey is going live now.
Have
you any preliminary results from the online survey that could be
helpful in formulating the research project?
One of the things that we started to see from these respondents
was that over three-fourths of the respondents were white. As
everybody knows, there’s a disproportionate occurrence of fibroids
in black women, and we did not appear to be getting their opinions.
For black women, it’s more uncommon to not have fibroids.
They also have more intense menstrual symptoms that occur at earlier
ages, have bigger fibroids, and experience fertility losses. In our
study, we had one woman who had nine prior pregnancy losses. We
weren’t hearing from black women on the website where we put this
survey.
Why
is it so important that black women be represented in these studies?
Because fibroids occur so commonly in black women, they stand to
benefit greatly from finding answers to the best treatment options.
We also need to have black women participate in the study in order
to determine that the treatment works as well for them as it does
for other women. Fibroids tend to occur earlier in black women. When
you’re in your 20s and they’re talking about hysterectomy, this
is very serious. One dramatic case in our study underscores the
impact of fibroids on women’s lives. One of our case studies was a
young woman, 18 years old. Her family took her to the emergency room
in the middle of the night because she was hemorrhaging. The doctors
told her, "To save your life we’ll have to do a
hysterectomy." Fortunately, the young woman lucked out. She was
at one of our study sites and the hospital had a young
interventional radiologist who was participating in our clinical
trial. Those are the kinds of choices that a young black woman and
her family faced in the middle of the night.
Why
are there so many hysterectomies for uterine fibroids?
There are many reasons why women are still undergoing
hysterectomy. One of the reasons involves the lag we often see
between advances in science and medicine and their application in
day-to-day practice. This has been referred to as translational
barriers. Even though we have a major advance in fibroid treatment,
it will take time until it diffuses out or is taken up in general
practice. Many people are beginning to question why it takes so long
for advances to have an impact on practice or, in this case, why
there are still so many hysterectomies for fibroids. It’s well
known that it can take between 10 to 20 years for advances to have
an impact on practice patterns. I don’t think women should have to
wait that long for access to a treatment that would dramatically
alter their health.
How
do women hear about UAE?
Women hear about new health treatments, including UAE, from a
variety of sources—the Internet, health magazines, other women. In
many cases, they hear about it by accident and at the last minute. I’ve
had calls from women on the way to the hospital for surgery. Their
desperation is incredible.
More and more women have been contacting me about UAE as a
treatment alternative, not just to preserve their uterus, but also
to preserve or enhance their fertility. The other day, a young woman
called me. She was just recovering. She had fibroids and she had
just lost her baby. She was 36. This was her first pregnancy. Her
doctors had advised her to take a conservative approach: try to
achieve pregnancy and we’ll see how it goes from there. She did
achieve a pregnancy and, at six months, she lost the pregnancy. She
had heard of UAE and wondered if that was a treatment option for
her. She’s already had a loss later on in pregnancy, which is more
difficult than having a loss at a month or two. She knows that
another conservative approach is not an option and that her fibroids
need to be treated. She’s wondering if she should have a
myomectomy or embolization. As she was 36, time was running out; it
was pressing. Unfortunately we do not have the evidence that would
help this woman and her doctors decide what to do next. We just don’t
have those data yet. What I did tell her was, in general, we don’t
know which one is better: UAE or myomectomy. We have encouraging
information from a number of pregnancies after embolization. We know
there are risks and complications for both (procedures). If anyone
tells you that one side is superior to the other, then you’re not
getting valid information. This is the first time I felt, as a
researcher, that people want and need to have answers right now.
That patient’s situation has stuck with me. I did refer her for
counseling to a gynecologist who performs myomectomy and who
collaborated with us on our Ontario UAE trial and is familiar with
the risks and unknowns of both procedures. I felt that would be the
least I could do for the young woman and her husband.
What
gives you the most pleasure about the citation of your papers?
There are many ways to cite a paper. It was a lot of work to
complete those papers and it is very rewarding to know that so many
other researches found my work useful and worthy of reference.
However, one of the most pleasurable citations involved a form of a
secondary or nonscientific citation. Last year, when I attended a
conference as an invited speaker, an interventional radiologist I
met said he regularly used the information in our 2003 Fertility
and Sterility paper when he counseled women for UAE. He said
that we had reported on so many women undergoing UAE safely and
successfully was helpful and reassuring for his patients. He was
using our information to inform and guide his patients. My study
results had a direct impact on patient care. It has been worth the
hard work.
Dr. Gaylene Pron
Department of Public Health Science
University of Toronto
Toronto, Canada
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