Since
we last spoke six years ago, the 1999 Nature paper,
"Electroluminescence in conjugated polymers" (Friend
RH, et al., 397[6715]: 121-8, 14 January 1999) has continued
to be cited at a phenomenal rate. Why do you think that’s so?
I think that paper is really an excellent example of the right
paper coming along at the right time. First of all, it has, as
authors, a good cast of people, and they made sure that all the
basic aspects of the field could be covered in that one review.
Secondly, it is not too long, and it’s not as detailed and complex
as a typical chemical review paper. Rather it is a review that
everyone can really read and understand. We also made sure when we
wrote it that we discussed what was really the state of the art at
the time, and that we did so in a very accessible manner. I think
that’s what ultimately made it so successful. And what I mean by the
right paper and the right time, those electroluminescent polymers
had been discovered by Richard Friend’s group 10 years earlier, but
it took that entire decade for the field to really mature and be
ready for the next generation of researchers to come along and carry
it forward, which is what has happened.
How
do the subjects of electroluminescence in conjugated polymers and
organic thin-film transistors fit together?
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“What is extremely interesting with these
conjugated polymers is that they can be used as
transistors—thin-film organic transistors, for instance—but they
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What you have to understand is that organic semiconductors, which
are based on molecular or oligomeric or macromolecular materials,
can have a number of different applications, just as any
semiconductor can. What is extremely interesting with these
conjugated polymers is that they can be used as
transistors—thin-film organic transistors, for instance—but they
also have electroluminescent properties. And actually now there are
devices that use both aspects at the same time. So they use organic
semiconductors as transistors and as light emitters in the same
device. Displays, for instance, are one really big potential
application and there are a number of these already on the market.
If you think of a flexible display made of organic material, than
the organic thin-film transistor will drive the organic
light-emitting diode, and that is a direct connection between the
electroluminescent uses of these organic semiconductors and the
transistor applications. There are even new devices (the
light-emitting field-effect transistors, LEFETs) in which light
emission is obtained in a transistor configuration.
How
did that cast of authors get together to write the 1999 Nature
review? In other words, how did that paper come about?
That’s a simple question to answer. Since the mid-1980s, the
European Commission of the European Union has had a series of what
they refer to as framework programs, a goal of which was to show
European scientists that if they started working together across
European country borders, they could do a pretty good job. So the
European Commission had calls for proposals that were budgeted for
something like four to five to six years. I started working with
Richard Friend, Andrew Holmes, Carlo Taliani, Bill Salaneck, and
some of these other authors in one of these framework programs some
15 years ago. A project we were all involved in, thanks to the
European Commission, was the LEDFOS project, which was oriented
toward research on light-emitting diodes made of organic
semiconductors.
We thought at the end of the project it would be a good legacy of
our collaboration to write a review and to describe not only what we
had done in the project but the state of the art of the field of
electroluminescence in conjugated polymers. So that’s what we did
and Nature was keen to get a review on a field that was
really emerging very quickly at the time.
What
are interchain interactions, and why do you think your 2001 review on
interchain interactions for Advanced Materials (Cornil J, et
al., "Interchain interactions in organic pi-conjugated materials:
Impact on electronic structure, optical response, and charge transport,"
Advan. Mater. 13: 1053-67, 2001) has been so highly cited?
Let me a back up a bit to give you the context. What we do in my
laboratory is use computational techniques to study the electronic
structure and optical properties of these organic materials. The
reason why I think our work has been pretty highly cited, in
general, is because we have been able to take an integrated approach
to the processes taking place in these devices. So we study the
injection of charges, the mobility of charges, and so on.
A key step that has allowed us to do that was to learn how to
study the interactions between chains of molecules in the material,
rather than looking at the behavior of a single chain. If you take
these polymer materials and dissolve them in solution, the chains
will totally separate from one another, and you can then study them
separately, and what you learn is relevant to the very dilute
solutions. Indeed, in these solutions, these materials can generate
a very strong luminescent signal. But when you want flexible
material—the reason we use these thin-film organic
semiconductors—the chains aggregate and so are parked adjacent to
each other and this very strong luminescence goes away. Since no
applications use dilute solutions, what was needed was to understand
the interchain interactions taking place in the aggregated
materials. So that’s what we started looking at in the late 1990s.
Our first paper on it was published in JACS in 1998 (Cornil
J, et al., "Influence of interchain interactions on the
absorption and luminescence of conjugated oligomers and polymers: a
quantum-chemical characterization," Journal of the American
Chemical Society 120: 1289-99, 1998). Once we were able to
develop the methodologies to study these interchain interactions we
were able to understand, for instance, the quenching of this
luminescence in the thin films. Then we could propose strategies for
preventing that quenching. That’s what we laid out in that
Advanced Materials paper, and that’s why it’s been cited so many
times.
How
did your understanding of the interchain interactions evolve after this
2001 paper?
The real major bonus that came out of understanding these
interchain interactions at a molecular level was that we realized we
could also use them to obtain a molecular picture of charge
transport in these new materials. That was the next step. We then
wrote a third paper, which was published in PNAS and is also
highly cited ("Organic semiconductors: A theoretical
characterization of the basic parameters governing charge
transport," PNAS 99: 5804-9, 2002), reporting that these new
methodologies allowed us to understand, really for the first time,
at a molecular level, the charge transport in these materials and
how it is affected by the interactions between neighboring chains.
One thing we did in that PNAS paper was to describe the
influence of what we call "packing": how the chains or the molecules
pack together in these materials, and the electronic coupling
between adjacent chains or molecules. That PNAS paper really
explains the influence of packing on the electronic coupling. And in
order for charge transport to be efficient, of course, you need as
large an electronic coupling as possible between adjacent molecules.
But that paper still provided a pretty static picture of the
process. This wasn’t sufficient to predict the mobility of charges
in organic thin-film transistors.
From a theoretical standpoint, one thing that’s happened since
then is efforts have been increasingly devoted to describing the
dynamics that occur in these materials. The key point being that we
have to deal with these thin-film organic transistors at 300 Kelvin,
at room temperature, and there they have vibrations and they move
with respect to one another—intermolecular vibrations—and the
dynamics of these vibrations and movements have a significant impact
on charge mobility. So there is a great deal of work now trying to
understand these dynamics. The goal is eventually to get to the
point that we can reliably predict the mobility of charge carriers
in these thin-film transistors.
What
do you consider the most challenging aspect of this research?
Let’s say you just synthesized a brand-new conjugated organic
semiconductor, a new molecular material, and it looks really good on
paper. And now the question is what can you expect it from practice:
what kind of mobility of charges will you get in that material?
Making that leap from theory to reality is the challenge. People are
always shooting for the highest possible charge mobility in their
materials. Everything works faster and so devices perform better.
But we’re still unable to say with confidence that, given a
particular molecular packing in the solid, a particular crystal
structure, how will that material perform in reality. Nobody can
predict, given the molecular structure or the chemical formula, how
this polymer or oligomer will act. That’s a big challenge still.
Therefore what we’re heavily involved with is to be able to couple
the motion of charges to this description of the inter- and
intra-molecular vibrations. A big part of what we’re trying to do is
to develop methodologies that make that connection. And if we’re
able to do that, then people will be able to go from there to
predict charge mobilities.
What’s
your most satisfying accomplishment to date?
Well, I have to say I am not fully satisfied yet! That said, one
major source of satisfaction is that we are able to work with so
many experimentalists who find our theoretical work relevant to
their experimental work. These experimentalists consider our work
useful because it tries to solve questions that they consider
important, and I take satisfaction from that.
Moreover, we are really not trying to look at just one aspect of
these questions or issues, but to take an integrated approach. If
you think about luminescence and organic light-emitting diodes,
there are at least five processes that take place in succession and
are necessary for a functioning device: you need good injection of
charges into your organic materials; those charges must be mobile;
the positive and negative charges must capture one another, so that
they form an excited state on the polymer chains that can also move
from chain to chain—a process known as exciton migration—and,
hopefully, the decay to the ground state will happen with the
emission of a photon.
We are looking at all those aspects, from the injection of
charges and how to understand the nature of the interface between
the polymer or organic material and the electrode, to the ultimate
decay to the ground state. We’re very much involved in understanding
the process of exciton migration; how the excited state can move
through material, and so on. This is what I like very much about our
work: we’re really trying to take an integrated approach to all the
processes that are relevant for these organic devices.
Jean-Luc Brédas, Ph.D.
Georgia Institute of Technology
Atlanta, GA, USA