What
prior research or whose prior work helped to start you on your way?
My interest in psychology was triggered by my elder brother Aus,
who was already practicing as a counseling psychologist when I was
considering my own career. I became hooked on research during my
training as a clinician, and after practicing for four years, I went
to Stanford to do a Ph.D. David Rosenhan
and Al Bandura were strong
influences there, and my early post-doctoral research on
self-efficacy and mood reflected their influence. It was a natural
step to the prediction of relapse in depression, and then to an
interest in prediction of relapse in other disorders. A chance
remark by a colleague, Penny Davis, sparked my interest in expressed
emotion (EE) as a predictor of relapse in schizophrenia. I later
spent a sabbatical at the MRC Psychiatry Unit in London, where
Christine Vaughn encouraged me to do a review on the topic. The
evolution of research goes on—I retain a research interest in
family support, but now I primarily work on comorbidity of substance
abuse and mental disorders.
What
would you rate as your most difficult or trying professional moment?
At about the same time as the review on EE, I was conducting a
collaborative dissemination trial on family intervention in
schizophrenia. It involved training over 200 practitioners in
standard community health centres to do an individual and a family
version of the intervention, and for their clients to then
participate in the randomized trial. Maintaining the practitioners'
involvement and ensuring treatment fidelity was extraordinarily
difficult. The outcomes nonsignificantly favoured family
intervention over the first 6 months, but over 12 months even the
apparent superiority disappeared. The trial remains unpublished.
This experience triggered an interest in the principles of training
and dissemination of innovation, which I am still pursuing.
Which
of your professional achievements brings you the most satisfaction?
Theoretical development is very satisfying—apart from the EE
paper mentioned above, one I did in 1990 on grief for the British
Journal of Psychiatry ("Towards a cognitive-behavioral
intervention for adult grief," British Journal of Psychiatry,
157:373-83, September 1990) was an exciting one to do—the existing
work
raised so many fascinating questions. Interestingly, that paper
did not attract many citations, so perhaps my own evaluation of it
is not shared by others. My current work on the nature of craving
and urges has also been very satisfying. However, it is the impact
(if any) that we have on individuals—our students,
practitioners, clients—that I think really counts. The papers
will probably be forgotten by most people in the field in a
relatively short time, and all too soon the paper copies will
disintegrate. If we've been able to benefit individuals through our
work, even transiently, that is much more valuable. For that reason,
I get a buzz out of the treatment trials—especially our research
on the treatment of alcohol abuse by correspondence. Some people
from very remote areas who would not otherwise have received help
reported having a lasting benefit.
What
impact might your work and research advances in your field have on the
general public?
Not as much as I'd hope. But perhaps it is a bit grandiose to
think that it will. I try to talk about relevant research to the
media and to my colleagues, but I think the real impact is often
much less than we believe. Clinical practice, for example, is so
hard to change in any systematic and lasting way. Media interest or
public awareness is a flash in the pan. I am part of an
international group that is currently trying to make a lasting
impact on community attitudes and practices concerning alcohol
misuse. This kind of work through existing community groups and
agencies has the potential for a much wider impact from our research
than we would otherwise have.
Did you expect your work to become highly cited, or is this
surprising to you?
I had of course hoped that others would like the EE review, but I
was surprised by the degree of interest. I guess it was the right
kind of review at the right time.
What
lessons would you draw from your work to pass on to the next
generation of researchers?
I suppose, don't be discouraged if your work is not recognized at
first. There is no substitute for hard work to learn our craft, and
we continue to develop over time. Sometimes very creative ideas go unrecognized
by others for a long time.
I think one of the key problems with current research—especially among Ph.D. students—is a narrow focus. This is both
a short time span of interest in papers—we have a lot to learn
from older research and theoretical writings—and a focus on too
narrow an area. A creative approach often comes from researchers
reading widely, and being exposed to a range of ideas and
experimental paradigms. My own work has really benefited from a wide
range of interests. Although I am perhaps not as well known in any
one area than I would have been if I'd specialized more, I think
what I do has more breadth than if I was more narrowly focused.
If
you had the power to make a single, sweeping change in the way that
scientific research is conducted and presented, what would it be?
I think we need to communicate our work more effectively.
Scientists are characterized as out of touch with everyday
experience—Einstein caricatures in white coats who would not know
real life if they tripped over it. Or worse, sinister figures
creating or discovering monsters (Frankenstein, King Kong, or
genetic). This even occurs with many clinical practitioners, who
despite a scientific training, still rely on subjective clinical
judgment in preference to sound evidence. Clearly, there are some
good reasons why this has occurred. Not all scientific advances have
been to society's ultimate benefit, and sometimes the research is
less relevant than it might be (e. g. the debate over efficacy vs.
effectiveness trials has been a useful one in clinical areas). But a
lot of the suspicion is not well founded, and it comes back to a
lack of sophistication in communicating our work. We need to value
marketing of research and its applications, or else it will fail to
have the impact it deserves. This is not to devalue pure research
that does not have an immediate application—the current focus on
targeted funding and immediate benefit is also problematic, as is a
focus on financial aspects of benefits. We need to sell the
excitement of discovery to the public for its own sake. I guess if
there was one single change, it would be that science attracted as
much media coverage, and attracted as much community interest as
sport does now. I know that is probably not achievable, but at least
we can try to whet the community's interest in what we are doing.
Would
you like to leave any other comments about your work or share a
personal side of yourself to be included in the piece?
Most of my work has been collaborative, and other people have
made a major impact on its outcomes. Most of all, the support of my
wife, Lois, has been critical to any success my work may have
achieved.
Dr. David J. Kavanagh
University of Queensland
Department of Psychiatry
Brisbane, Queensland, Australia